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    Fokus: Tyrkia - høyt politisk spill med NATO og kurderne - Europa

    Tyrkia er et land som fortjener egen "Fokus" tråd her på Milforum. Ikke bare er det enkelte røster som mener NATO-medlemsskapet til landet er under spørsmålstegn, det er også stor spenning knyttet til valget og fremtidig lederskap, samt forholdet til Russland og Asia, særlig tilknyttet spørsmål om energi (#pipelinemanagement).

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    Fra CIA World Factbook:

    Modern Turkey was founded in 1923 from the Anatolian remnants of the defeated Ottoman Empire by national hero Mustafa KEMAL, who was later honored with the title Ataturk or "Father of the Turks." Under his leadership, the country adopted wide-ranging social, legal, and political reforms. After a period of one-party rule, an experiment with multi-party politics led to the 1950 election victory of the opposition Democratic Party and the peaceful transfer of power. Since then, Turkish political parties have multiplied, but democracy has been fractured by periods of instability and intermittent military coups (1960, 1971, 1980), which in each case eventually resulted in a return of political power to civilians. In 1997, the military again helped engineer the ouster - popularly dubbed a "post-modern coup" - of the then Islamic-oriented government. Turkey intervened militarily on Cyprus in 1974 to prevent a Greek takeover of the island and has since acted as patron state to the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus," which only Turkey recognizes. A separatist insurgency begun in 1984 by the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) - now known as the Kurdistan People's Congress or Kongra-Gel (KGK) - dominated the Turkish military's attention and claimed more than 30,000 lives. After the capture of the group's leader in 1999, the insurgents largely withdrew from Turkey mainly to northern Iraq. In 2013, the PKK and the Turkish Government agreed to a ceasefire that continues despite slow progress in ongoing peace talks. Turkey joined the UN in 1945 and in 1952 it became a member of NATO. In 1963, Turkey became an associate member of the European Community; it began accession membership talks with the European Union in 2005. Over the past decade, economic reforms have contributed to a quickly growing economy.

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    Tyrkia (tyrkisk: Türkiye), offisielt Republikken Tyrkia (tyrkisk: Türkiye Cumhuriyeti), er en stat som strekker seg over den anatoliske halvøya i det sørvestlige Asia/Midtøsten og Balkanhalvøya i det sørlige Europa. Tyrkia grenser til åtte land: Til Bulgaria i nordvest, Hellas i vest, Georgia i nordøst, Armenia, Aserbajdsjan (eksklaven Nakhitsjevan) og Iran i øst, samt Irak og Syria i sørøst. Sør for Tyrkia ligger Middelhavet og Kypros, vest for Tyrkia ligger Egeerhavet, og nord for landet Svartehavet. Tyrkia har også et innlandshav, Marmarahavet, som av geografer brukes som skillelinje mellom Europa og Asia.[1] Tyrkia regnes ofte også som en del av det geografiske området Midtøsten.[2] Tyrkia er en av de seks uavhengige tyrkiske stater. Landets offisielle språk er tyrkisk, som er morsmål for omtrent 85 prosent av landets befolkning.[3] Landets største etniske gruppe er tyrkere, som ifølge The World Factbook utgjør mellom 70 og 75 prosent av befolkningen.[2] Største minoritet i landet er kurdere, som ifølge samme kilde utgjør 18 prosent av Tyrkias befolkning, mens andre minoriteter utgjør anslagsvis mellom sju og tolv prosent.[2] Et stort flertall av Tyrkias innbyggere er muslimer.[2] En pågående konflikt mellom Tyrkia og militante kurdiske grupperinger har resultert i betydelige tap av menneskeliv.[4] Staten Tyrkia ble opprettet etter første verdenskrig, da det osmanske imperiet ble stykket opp. Landsfaderen Mustafa Kemal Atatürk la vekt på å modernisere landet og redusere religionens rolle. Han mente også det var viktig å forene befolkningen ved å styrke dens tyrkiske identitet.

    Tyrkia - Wikipedia
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    Flaws in Turkish-Russian relations




    World War II has special significance for the peoples of the former Soviet Union; they lost more than 20 million in that conflict.

    Ukraine, which was an inseparable part of Czarist Russia and the USSR, has turned westward in recent times, which has opened deep rifts with Moscow. Notably, Turkey's silence on the Ukraine front, as well as with regards to the invasion of Crimea, has pleased Moscow tremendously.


    Flaws in Turkish-Russian relations | Center for Geopolitical Analyses

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    Fokus: Russland
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    Full Documentary BBC 2014 Our World Turkey's Hidden Truths
    En av kommentarene på Youtube seiler opp som dagens kommentar dog fra annet forum:

    "Fuck you bitches suck on my Turkish balls"

    BBC'S Propaganda to bring down the government and support the Kurds, Armenia's and Jewish terrorism. Why is it CNN BBC and other Zionist don't talk about Suffering PALENTINES? The Lady Commentator is Kurdish Alevi she wants Kurdistan to be Built by tearing Turkey apart. fuck you bitches suck on my Turkish balls.
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    Skjebnevalg 7. juni:

    Erdogan, som ble valgt til president i fjor etter å ha vært statsminister siden 2003, ønsker seg mer reell politisk makt. Mye mer.


    Han vil erstatte det parlamentariske systemet med et presidentsystem à la det amerikanske, og på den måten sikre at han som landets øverste leder blir langt mer enn et staselig symbol med begrensede oppgaver.

    Tyrkias sterke mann vil endre grunnloven for å få all makt selv - Aftenposten
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    Snart på tide at hæren retter opp skipet igjen...

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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Navytimes Vis post
    Snart på tide at hæren retter opp skipet igjen...
    Er redd at vi ikke kan håpe på det mer, flere tyrkere som jeg har snakket med de siste årene som ikke lengre tørr å håpe på at hæren skal redde Tyrkia fra å gli tilbake til den Orientale sykdommen. Trist for dem av oss som plasserer Ataturk høyt opp på listen over beundringsverdige menn.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7RfCGap0Pic




    "Har man varit med om kriget blir man ganska ödmjuk. Man glömmer inte att man bara var en av många som genomförde jobbet. Och att man hade tur som kom tillbaka."

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    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av lukman Vis post
    Er redd at vi ikke kan håpe på det mer, flere tyrkere som jeg har snakket med de siste årene som ikke lengre tørr å håpe på at hæren skal redde Tyrkia fra å gli tilbake til den Orientale sykdommen. Trist for dem av oss som plasserer Ataturk høyt opp på listen over beundringsverdige menn.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7RfCGap0Pic




    "Har man varit med om kriget blir man ganska ödmjuk. Man glömmer inte att man bara var en av många som genomförde jobbet. Och att man hade tur som kom tillbaka."

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    Eit av problema er vel at Erdogan har gitt dei generalane som kunne ha gjort noko sparken.

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    Erdogan fires 40 generals charged with planning coup, undermining government - World Tribune | World Tribune
    Erdogan fires 40 generals charged with planning coup, undermining government

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    ANKARA — In the latest move to control the military, Prime Minister
    Recep Erdogan has engineered the dismissal of 40 generals.
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    Ja, det var nok den ja.
    Prinsipielt er eg fullstendig mot militærkupp, men i Tyrkia har det militære fungert som ein garanti for at demokratiet innført med Aturk skulle bestå. Eg trur ikkje den utviklinga som skjer i Tyrkia i dag er bra for verken Tyrkia, NATO eller resten av verda.

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    Turkey, Saudi Arabia Join Forces to Help Anti-Assad Rebels - US News

    Tyrkia og Saudi har fått nok av å vente på Obama.


    "Har man varit med om kriget blir man ganska ödmjuk. Man glömmer inte att man bara var en av många som genomförde jobbet. Och att man hade tur som kom tillbaka."

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    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Deepening Relations Between Balkans And Turkey: Economic Growth And Patterns Of Development


    The Balkan economic structure may be the most unpredictable in the world due to the region’s political circumstances.

    After Turkey’s then-Prime Minister (now President) Recep Tayyip Erdogan held a speech asserting that “Kosovo is Turkey, Turkey is Kosovo”, Turkey’s cooperation and relationship with Kosovo has become an issue of increased sensitivity. Although there has been little change in the two countries’ relations, investment projects are continuing and show no sign of stopping: the Turkish-US consortium of ENKA-Bechtel is building a motorway in the country valued at 700 million euro, Calik Holding is in the process of purchasing Kosovo Electricity Distribution and Supply, and Turkish Economy Bank now operates 24 branches within Kosovo. As for Macedonia, Turkey’s Tosyali Holding is involved in a project that aims to modernize and to improve the management of Skopje and Ohrid airports, and it is also seeking to acquire the AD Nikšić steel-mill in Montenegro. Turkey also enjoys diverse relations with Serbia and Slovenia.

    Seeing that Turkey already enjoys good relations with Bosnia and Herzegovina, and particularly with its constituent Bosniak community, it can be expected that the economic relations between these two countries will develop in the future as their long-term, mutually beneficial friendship grows.

    Deepening Relations Between Balkans And Turkey: Economic Growth And Patterns Of Development - Analysis - Eurasia Review
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    Turkey and Gazprom. The geopolitics of pipelines

    Russia’s Gazprom, OJSC and the Turkish company Botas Petroleum Pipeline Corporation confirmed their intention to pump the initial shipment of natural gas into Turkey through the new pipeline in December 2016. And by 2019, Russia will be able to deliver gas supplies to Europe while bypassing Ukraine.

    Pyotr Iskenderov - Turkey and Gazprom. The geopolitics of pipelines - Strategic Culture Foundation - on-line journal > Turkey and Gazprom. The geopolitics of pipelines > Strategic-Culture.org - Strategic Culture Foundation
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    Er NATO-landet Tyrkia i ferd med å manøvrere seg vekk fra forsvarsalliansen? Det står ikke på agendaen, men er et av spørsmålene som lurer under overflaten når utenriksministermøtet i Antalya starter i dag.

    Fire punkter som skaper stive smil på NATO-møtet i Tyrkia - Aftenposten
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    NATO - Official text: The North Atlantic Treaty, 04-Apr.-1949

    Kan vel ikke se hva i disse fire punktene som står i noen konflikt med NATO-traktaten.

    NATO-traktaten er en relativ begrenset traktat.
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    Dette er ikke en ny problemstilling. CNN skrev dette i 2012:

    Would Turkey leave NATO?

    Only a few years ago, Turkey’s commitment to NATO was in doubt. Some were even suggesting that Turkey would abandon the alliance — or that at least, the alliance should seriously lower its expectations. But recent events in Syria, including last week's downing of a Turkish plane by Damascus, and Turkish-Iranian competition in the Middle East have been increasing NATO's worth for the Turks. Turkey has also signed up to join NATO’s missile-defense project, putting its name under what has been NATO’s core mission for decades: meeting common threats with common action by democratic states. (In this modern-day example, it’s Iranian missiles as the threat in question, not Russian tanks.) For the moment, at least, Turkey has found comfort in NATO’s security. But Ankara’s long-term commitment to the alliance should not be taken for granted, because Turkey has at least two strategic alternatives to NATO.

    Kilde/les mer: Would Turkey leave NATO? – Global Public Square - CNN.com Blogs



    Anerkjente Politico skrev dette i oktober 2014:
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    Time to Kick Turkey Out of NATO?


    The mess in Syria only confirms an inconvenient truth: The Turks are no longer reliable allies.
    By JONATHAN SCHANZER
    October 09, 2014

    The Kurdish town of Kobane in western Syria is under siege by the Islamic State. A U.S.-led coalition has hit at the jihadists sieging Kobane—with 13 strikes on Wednesday and Thursday—but bombs alone may not suffice. It is the Turkish military, whose tanks are currently sitting on the Syrian border, that may be in the best position to save stave off a mass slaughter. But the Turks refuse to join the fight, even though the Turkish Parliament voted on Oct. 2 to deploy the Turkish army to fight in Iraq and Syria, and to allow foreign troops on Turkish soil. A week after the vote, Turkey has not participated in any U.S.-led operations against the Islamic State.

    In many ways, Turkey has made the fight against the Islamic State more difficult. Apart from permitting some unarmed American drones to fly out of its territory, Ankara has refused to allow the West to operate from Turkish airbases. This has forced strike aircraft to fly their sorties from the Al Udeid airbase in Qatar, Shaheed Mwaffaq in Jordan or Al Dhafra in the UAE. As for the Incirlik air base that NATO operates in Eastern Turkey, Ankara has made it clear that for the time being, it is currently off limits for armed operations.

    The crisis in Kobani once again brings the challenge of Turkey into sharp relief. Despite the best efforts of Washington and other coalition members to bring Turkey along, it now appears clear: Turkey under the AKP is a lost cause. It is simply not a partner for NATO. Nor is it a partner in the fight against the Islamic State.

    Kilde/les mer: http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...1#.VDf2S_l4rX-
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    Those of us old enough to have lived through the so-called Korean Conflict of 1950-53, can recall the tough Turkish military contingents part of the multilateral UN force that endeavored to stave off the North Korean and Chinese PLA hordes in what was euphemistically called, “a police action”. That was then. Now, Turkey's US supplied F-16 aircraft are not flying from NATO airbases in his country. He has yet to permit USAF operations out of those airbases despite authorizing legislation passed by the Turkish parliament. US supplied Turkish Army tanks are positioned silently on the Turkish Syrian border. All while the world's media coveys images of the courageous YPG fighters, women among them, lightly armed, desperately fighting against all odds with ISIS troops equipped with stolen US mortars, tanks and artillery.
    Kilde/les mer: http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog.../blog_id/56820

    Despite Turkey’s increasingly obvious anti-Israel / pro-Hamas position in the world, it remains a NATO ally of the U.S. When State Department spokesman Marie Harf was asked why Turkey is continuing to receive high tech arms shipments from the U.S. shortly after it was learned that Turkey is harboring a senior Hamas figure, she deferred to Turkey’s NATO-member status.
    Kilde/les mer: http://shoebat.com/2014/08/19/either...st-leave-nato/
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    Sultan of Turkey: Erdogan’s Shameless Power Play

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    Erdoğan is Turkey’s first publicly elected president. Under the current parliamentary system, the presidency is a largely symbolic institution, but Erdoğan is agitating for a more active role. His ultimate goal is to alter the constitution and transform the country’s political system into a presidential one, but to do so without negotiating with the opposition, he needs the AKP to win a two-thirds majority in the upcoming June elections.

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    Does Turkey Have the Putin Disease?

    Turkey’s president has been grabbing more and more power for himself—and if his party wins in June elections, it could consolidate his rule as a Putin-like strongman.

    Erdogan aims for a big win in June to move Turkey from a parliamentary to a presidential system—with himself at the top, of course.

    Does Turkey Have the Putin Disease? - The Daily Beast
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    "To this legal incapacitation, we should add the prospect that a few thousand votes could determine whether or not the Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) will make it into Parliament. Everybody realizes that this is the make-or-break result of these elections, the one that will decide whether the AKP can continue with its plans for a presidential system. This situation is almost an open invitation for vote-rigging and it explains why the European parliamentarians and many in Turkey are increasingly worried that things may get out of control in the run-up to June 7, and on the day itself when votes will be counted and results gathered."

    JOOST LAGENDIJK-Will Turkey have free and fair elections?

    Vi får håpe at AKP ikke klarer å holde på makten etter valget. Økonomisk suksess har vært nøkkelen til deres suksess, og økonomien skranter. Valgfusk er kanskje Erdogan beste mulighet til å bli en ny sultan.

    Vedrørende NATO (les stormaktene i NATO) og Turkiet, der sitter Turkiet i motsats til feks Norge med sterke kort på hånden. Det vil si at Turkiet er viktigere for NATO enn NATO for Turkiet.
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    Som de fleste konflikter, kan som tidligere nevnt stikkordet #pipelinemanagement settes som overordnet hæshtægg som beskrivelse av de store geopolitiske konfliktene i verden. Kampen om #energi. I så måte interessant uttalelse fra Tyrkia under NATO-toppmøte nylig vs Russland:



    Turkey says 'nothing justifies' Russia policy ahead of NATO talks

    Published on May 13

    ANTALYA, Turkey (AFP) - Turkey on Tuesday said nothing can justify Russia's actions in Ukraine and other ex-Soviet states, in a rare strong criticism of its increasingly close ally ahead of a NATO meeting. Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, whose country is a key member of NATO, said Ankara was prepared to play a "constructive role" in the disputes between Russia and the West over Ukraine. But he said: "Nothing can justify what Russia has been doing in its neighbourhood."

    "Ukraine. Crimea. Georgia," he said, referring to the fighting in Ukraine, Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea and its recognition of two breakaway regions of Georgia after a 2008 war.
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    But he also said that the West had made mistakes in presenting Ukraine with a stark choice between Europe and Russia.
    "Unfortunately while the Berlin Wall has fallen, the wall in our minds has not." Turkey's ties with Russia have warmed in recent months as it goes through a cool period in relations with the European Union.
    Kilde: Straits Time
    Flere øvrige kilder på disse uttalelsene.

    Stratfor kommenterte i april i år forholdet Russland-Tyrkia:

    Tensions Mount in Russian-Turkish Relations

    And we've seen the Turks also participate in Black Sea exercises alongside the Romanians as well as the Bulgarians. Now obviously all of this is very unnerving to Russia. And Russia has kind of played a careful game with Turkey. They've avoided stepping on each other's toes for a very long time in the Caucasus and any overlapping spheres of influence in Europe. But we see that starting to shift just a bit. And maybe a symbolic interpretation of that is just what's going with the anniversaries that we have in both Turkey and Armenia. So what's happening on the Russian side to show its displeasure with the Turks? Lili: So originally President Vladimir Putin was scheduled to go to Armenia for the 100-year commemoration of the Armenian genocide. But what happened was that over the past few weeks we saw some tensions between Russia and Turkey kind of come into the fore, especially over the treatment of Crimean Tatars. The Turkish foreign minister publicly criticized Russia for shutting down a Crimean Tatar television station which was an odd statement to make because in the past Turkey and Russia have kept their disagreements rather quiet, preferring to negotiate rather than bring their disagreements to the public. So these tensions have actually caused the Kremlin to change its position on Putin's attendance at the Armenian commemorations.
    Kilde: Stratfor

    Infographic hentet fra en skoleoppgave:



    Russia is the main energy supplier. Especially as far as gas is concerned, it is of major geopolitical value since it canonly be cheaply transported through pipelines, that most of them are owned or controlled by Moscow. With the exception of Azerbaijan that produces and exportsenergy, Russian energy firms are able to manipulate the internal political situationby favoring specific local businesses or politicians. For Turkey the operation of BTC 44 pipeline since 2005 was a huge political and economical success, since itprovided a way out of the Russian energy monopoly 45 from Azerbaijan throughGeorgia and Turkey. This, however, did not prevent Russia from being still theprincipal energy supplier, especially in gas.
    I denne bloggen ble det skrevet om det fremtidige forholdet mellom Russland og Tyrkia i kjølvannet av Ukrainakrigen:

    A Further Look at How the Ukraine Crisis is Testing Turkey-Russia Ties

    Russia's moves regarding Crimea left Turkey facing something of a conundrum, unable to protest too much because of its crucial trade and energy ties with Moscow. As the crisis in Ukraine continues, Turkey's dilemma regarding how to respond to developments there has only deepened, posing an even stickier challenge for Turkish-Russian relations.

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    The crisis in Ukraine, and the prospect of a more confrontational relationship with Russia confronts Turkey with a series of difficult choices in multiple policy arenas. The issues, from energy security to sanctions, from defense posture to the interests of ethnic Turks abroad, are challenging in their own right — all the more so as they come at a time of economic and political stress for the country. To the extent that the ongoing crisis in relations with Russia calls into question the European security order writ large, Turkey is very likely headed for a sharper debate about its own strategic position and role in transatlantic security arrangements. Is Turkey returning to its traditional role as a barrier in relation to this and other sources of risk
    I nevnte skoleoppgave fra 2014, tas det opp det problematiske forholdet mellom Russland og Tyrkia:

    Turkey is definitely not on the path to Black Sea hegemony for two reasons:first because it has to face a variety of multi-frontal global and domesticchallenges that it cannot withstand simultaneously and second because Russia isthe major economical and political power in the region. Though multiple trials have been made one could say that Turkey has not yet found its place in modernworld: Is Turkey a democracy? Or was the turn of Turkey towards the West just anexcuse to promote Islam and illegitimize the pro-Kemalist military interventions? Does it belong to Europe after all? And beyond that how can Turkey resolve theKurdish issue and the perplex problems with its neighbours both East and West?These are all problematics that Turkey has to resolve. At the same time Russiaalso has a world-wide spread foreign policy agenda full of issues to be dealt with.But the difference is that Russia has a consolidated regime in terms of institutionsand appeal to its citizens and is the major energy supplying power - a fact that hasturned Russia into the major player in the Black Sea region both in economic andgeopolitical terms. This supremacy allows Russia to have the upper hand andcontrol in the region.
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    Turkey snubs Russia by pushing ahead with Iraq gas import pipeline


    As threats go it was hardly subtle – one commentator has said Putin likes to open talks by putting a knife on the table first – and would have been unlikely to influence Turkey's decision to open talks with Gazprom on the possible hosting of South Stream, as Ankara has made that same offer itself on several occasions in the past.

    However, by signalling its commitment to push ahead with importing and transiting Iraqi gas, Ankara has sent an equally robust response, that it won't be fazed by the Russians' hardball actions, and will not be steamrollered into agreeing to host South Stream irrespective of other considerations.
    The Russia-Turkey Energy Axis: Putin has chosen the Middle East over Europe



    Despite many cultural differences, Turkey is a far more valuable asset than all of the Baltic countries, Ukraine, and the former Yugoslavia put together.

    The Real Reason Russia Cancelled South Stream




    These Russian deals with China and Turkey have been criticised and even ridiculed for providing Russia with a lower price for its gas than that paid by Europe. The actual difference in price is not as great as some allege. Such criticism anyway overlooks the fact that price is only one part in a business relationship. By redirecting gas to China, Russia cements economic links with the country that it now considers its key strategic ally and which has (or which soon will have) the world’s biggest and fastest growing economy. By redirecting gas to Turkey, Russia consolidates a burgeoning relationship with Turkey of which it is now the biggest trading partner.




    South Stream was first conceived because of Ukraine’s continuous abuse of its position as a transit state – something which is likely to continue. It is important to say that this fact was acknowledged in Europe as much as in Russia. It was because Ukraine perennially abuses its position as a transit state that the South Stream project had the grudging formal endorsement of the EU. Basically, the EU needs to circumvent the Ukraine to secure its energy supplies every bit as much as Russia wanted a route around Ukraine to avoid it.

    Ukraine’s friends in Washington and Brussels have never been happy about this, and have constantly lobbied against South Stream. The point is however that it was Russia which pulled the plug on South Stream when it had the option of going ahead with it by accepting the Europeans’ conditions. In other words the Russians consider the problems posed by the Ukraine as a transit state to be a lesser evil than the conditions the EU was attaching to South Stream .
    South Stream would anyway take years to build and its cancellation therefore has no bearing on the current Ukrainian crisis.

    The reason the Russians decided they could cancel it is because they have decided Russia’s future is in selling its energy to China and Turkey and other states in Asia (more gas deals are pending with Korea and Japan and possibly also with Pakistan and India) than to Europe. Given that this is so, for Russia South Stream has lost its point. That is why in their characteristically direct way, rather than accept the Europeans’ conditions, the Russians pulled the plug on it.
    Noen andre relaterte artikler/tematikk:

    Is South Stream Pipeline Transforming Itself To “Turk Stream”?

    Russia’s $40 billion South Stream gas pipeline project came to reach a standstill on Monday 1st Dec 2014 when, as the WSJ reports, Russian President Vladimir Putin said: “We couldn’t get necessary permissions from Bulgaria, so we cannot continue with the project. We can’t make all the investment just to be stopped at the Bulgarian border.” The main reasons for halting the South Stream are plunging energy prices, stalling European demand, interpretation of the European Commission that all bilateral agreements (IGAs) for the construction of South Stream are all in breach of EU law and mostly the political standoff between the European Union and Moscow over the crisis in Ukraine.
    Turkish Stream to start gas supplies in December 2016



    Alexey Miller and Taner Yildiz addressed the issues of Russian gas supplies to Turkey, upgrade of the Blue Stream gas pipeline and execution of the project for a new gas pipeline construction from Russia to Turkey across the Black Sea.

    Turkey is Gazprom’s second largest sales market behind Germany. In 2014 Gazprom supplied Turkey with 27.4 billion cubic meters of natural gas. Turkey currently receives Russian natural gas via the Blue Stream and the Trans-Balkan gas pipelines.

    Running under the Black Sea, the Blue Stream gas pipeline secures annual direct supplies of some 16 billion cubic meters of Russian natural gas to Turkish consumers.
    Akkurat dette problematiserer forholdet Tyrkia-Russland, som øvrige storkonflikter i verden: handels- og energiavhengighet #pipelinemanagment
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    Tyrkia har skutt ned et Syrisk luftfartøy.
    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Legger inn denne (tilhører større artikkel om Balkan og gjelder ikke bare Tyrkia) da den er svært relevant for de som følger litt ekstra med på Tyrkia:


    The Problems Foreign Powers Find in the Balkans




    Turkish Interests

    Turkey has its own cultural links and economic interests in the Balkans, but it currently lacks the resources and military power to rival Russia or the West.
    One of Turkey's strategic objectives is to maintain influence in the Black Sea. Historically, Ankara has achieved this by anchoring itself on the Danube. By extension, this objective entails managing relations with other Black Sea states in the Balkans. But Turkey is also attempting to grow closer to Bosnia-Herzegovina, where Ankara means to enhance its influence through cultural and historical ties. These connections are important: Muslim Bosniaks started migrating to Turkey in the 17th century, and a few million Turkish citizens claim Bosniak roots today. This ethnic affinity has prompted popular government initiatives to invest in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
    Turkey cannot match the level of financial investment Western powers and Russia commit to the Balkans. But as the gatekeeper to the Black Sea and as a NATO member, Turkey plays a significant role in Bulgarian and Romanian efforts to boost defense cooperation in response to the crisis in Ukraine. Moreover, Turkey has been able to use financial and political tools to curry favor with Bosnia. Turkey is among the top five investors in the country. In fact, Turkish officials claim that Turkey has invested $1.1 billion in Bosnia since 1995 — a significant sum for a country with a gross domestic product of about $18 billion.
    The Turkish Stream pipeline, if built, would no doubt empower Turkey. Ankara would play a central role in its construction, and it would use that role to improve its relationships with countries that would receive Turkish Stream natural gas, including Macedonia and Serbia.
    https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/pr...eid=9be7bdf743


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    Erdogan's ambition heralds turbulence after Turks vote

    "You will not take me away from these stages, you will not silence me," he told a rally in the central city of Kirikkale this month, explaining why the presidency should get greater powers.

    "Erdogan is aware that every passing day his power is being eroded, that's why he is pushing so hard for the presidential system," said Sinan Ulgen, head of the Istanbul-based EDAM think-tank and a visiting scholar with Carnegie Europe.

    "What empowers him is the existence of that prospect. Once that is no longer realistic, the balance of power will start to turn against him."

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    A New Turkish-Saudi Thaw is Helping Rebels in Syria and Worrying Washington - Defense One

    Turkey and Saudi Arabia are finally working together to fight terrorism, and that’s good and bad news to the Obama administration.

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    #pipelinemanagement

    @Stratfor: Stratfor Graphic: Proposed Turkish and South Stream Pipelines http://info.stratfor.com/twlg/ http://twitter.com/Stratfor/status/603342605645127680/photo/1




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    Bjørn Stærk: Verden blir ikke lenger mer demokratisk


    Tyrkia er hverken fritt eller ufritt, sa skribenten Mustafa Akyol under Oslo Freedom Forum i forrige uke. De befinner seg i den store gråsonen av land som er demokratiske på papiret, men har en svak demokratisk kultur. Det gjør dem sårbare for autoritære ledere som Tyrkias president Recep Erdogan.


    For noen år siden var Akyol optimist. I boken Islam Without Extremes (som jeg skrev om i februar) nøstet han opp en liberal tradisjon i islam som han mener har spesielt gode levekår i Tyrkia. Da trodde han at regjeringspartiet AKP var i ferd med å nærme seg denne tradisjonen. De snakket som et moderat og demokratisk islamistparti. Han trodde de mente alvor.
    Nå mener Akyol at mange AKP-politikere bare spilte med for å vinne velgere. Makten avslører.

    Desto mer makt Erdogan har fått, desto mer autoritær og paranoid er han blitt.

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    Noen med hakket hvassere evner i samfunnsanalyse som har noen tanker om hvorvidt den demokratiske utviklingen i Tyrkia kan ha noe å si i forhold til landets NATO-medlemsskap? Ser det har vært ymtet frempå litt tidligere i tråden, men hadde vært meget interessant om noen hadde noen litt mer inngående tanker..
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    Så lenge konfliktene i Midtøsten pågår er det i NATO (les: USA) sin interesse å tilgang til en "stabil" samarbeidspartner med grenser til flere av de aktuelle konfliktområdene. Men utviklingen i Tyrkia burde være særs bekymringsfull for NATO. Legger man lokk på folket, så risikerer man at trykket bygger seg opp under trykkokeren. Det siste regionen trenger er at Tyrkia destabiliseres.
    TTTF - Trykk, Tal, Tenk, F***!

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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av aquila Vis post
    Så lenge konfliktene i Midtøsten pågår er det i NATO (les: USA) sin interesse å tilgang til en "stabil" samarbeidspartner med grenser til flere av de aktuelle konfliktområdene. Men utviklingen i Tyrkia burde være særs bekymringsfull for NATO. Legger man lokk på folket, så risikerer man at trykket bygger seg opp under trykkokeren. Det siste regionen trenger er at Tyrkia destabiliseres.
    En god del av problemet er at det ikke er majoriteten av folket som blir lagt lokk på. Så Erdogan er faktisk populær blant tyrkere flest, men ikke de mer vestlig-orienterte som gjerne bor i Istanbul.

    Det eneste håpet Tyrkia har for å fortsette å være en demokratisk, åpen stat er et militærkupp. Dette vet Erdogan, så han har arrestert hundrevis av offiserer.

    En stille forbigått sak i norske medier (unntatt document.no) er denne:

    Türkei: Recep Tayyip Erdogan schwärmt von der Eroberung Jerusalems - DIE WELT
    two to the heart, one to the mind...

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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av henbruas Vis post
    Erdogan gjør nå det enhver diktator med respekt for seg selv ville gjort:

    Turkey's Erdogan vows to punish journalist behind Syria trucks video - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post


    Vi har også engelskspråklige kilder om talen hans om å erobre Jerusalem, som må sies å ha bortimot apokalyptiske implikasjoner:
    Erdo?an: 'Liberate Jerusalem' from the Jews - Israel News, Ynetnews

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    En god del av problemet er at det ikke er majoriteten av folket som blir lagt lokk på. Så Erdogan er faktisk populær blant tyrkere flest, men ikke de mer vestlig-orienterte som gjerne bor i Istanbul.
    Jeg har de siste årene vært på jobber i Istanbul, samt noen små steder øst i landet som knapt har sett en hviting siden noen svære amerikanske turister vaste rundt i ray-bans og ørkenstøvler tilfeldigvis akkurat samtidig som 2003-invasjonen av Irak begynte.

    Vestlige som tror det "ekte" Tyrkia er de tyrkerne de møter i Istanbul og diverse Klamydiaresorts langs kysten kan ta seg et søtt, rundt bakverk. Ute på landet i øst har det ideologisk sett ikke vært skiftet så mye som en lyspære siden folkemordet på Armenerne, som Tyrkia den dag i dag nekter for. Den direkte trassaktige oppførselen rundt Armenerhistorien og Kypros, lovverkets vanvittige artikkel 301 og selv fremstående, tilsynelatende moderne politikeres offentlig uttalte kvinnesyn - Tyrkia er ikke del av Europa, ei heller modent for å bli det, uansett hvor hyggelige innfødte man treffer i turistfellene.
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    Drar seg til i Tyrkia nå før valget. Noen nyhetsklipp:

    BBC
    Turkey election: Campaigners in final push ahead of poll


    Political campaigners in Turkey are making their final push for support ahead of Sunday's general election.
    The vote could see the ruling Justice and Development (AK) Party's majority shrink, as the pro-Kurdish People's Democratic Party (HDP) tries to enter parliament for the first time.
    But President Recep Tayyip Erdogan hopes the result will help move Turkey towards a presidential system.
    There has been heated debate ahead of a ban on media coverage at the weekend.

    Les mer her: Turkey election: Campaigners in final push ahead of poll - BBC News

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    (The Associated Press)
    FoxNews
    Turkey general election: What's at stake and why it matters


    Turkey’s national parliamentary election on June 7th matters. The future direction of one of the Middle East’s strongest, most economically successful, most populous countries is at stake.


    If the AKP win a two-thirds majority in the parliament on Sunday, it will be able to increase Erdogan’s presidential powers significantly —without having to hold a constitutional referendum.


    If it fails to get a supermajority, such a transformation is unlikely. Whether it can reach its goal depends largely on the appeal and electoral prospects of the man seen as Erdogan key challenger – Selahattin Demirtas, the charismatic, 42-year old Kurdish lawyer who heads the Peoples’ Democratic Party.

    Les mer her: Turkey general election: What's at stake and why it matters | Fox News






    Reuters
    Two dead, 100 hurt in blasts at Kurdish rally in Turkey


    Two blasts ripped through a Kurdish rally in Turkey on Friday, killing two people and injuring more than 100 in what President Tayyip Erdogan described as a "provocation" designed to undermine peace before Sunday's parliamentary election.
    The explosions occurred as tens of thousands of people gathered for the pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) election rally in Diyarbakir, the largest city in mainly Kurdish southeast Turkey.

    Les mer her: Two dead, 100 hurt in blasts at Kurdish rally in Turkey | Reuters

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    (AP Photo/Emre Tazegul)


    DIYARBAKIR, Turkey, June 5 (Reuters) - Two blasts ripped through a Kurdish rally in Turkey on Friday, killing two people and injuring more than 100 in what President Tayyip Erdogan described as a "provocation" designed to undermine peace before Sunday's parliamentary election.


    The explosions occurred as tens of thousands of people gathered for the pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) election rally in Diyarbakir, the largest city in mainly Kurdish southeast Turkey.

    Les mer her: Blasts At Election Rally In Turkey's Southeast Kill At Least 2, Over 100 Injured

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    Wold i sikkerhet i Tyrkia


    133 skadd og to drept i eksplosjon

    Stortingsrepresentant Morten Wold (FrP) har merket lite til opptøyene og er i trygghet i hovedstaden Ankara.

    FAKTA OM TYRKIA

    Styreformen i Tyrkia er demokratisk republikk. Landet styres av en folkevalgt president og en regjering som blir oppnevnt av parlamentet. De har en tredeling av makta – den blir delt mellom en nasjonalforsamling (Millet Meclisi), en dømmende makt og en utøvende makt ved regjering og president. Abdullah Gül har vært president siden 2007 men Recep Tayyip Erdoğan som ligger ett hakk under, har vært statsminister siden 2003. De begge tilhører partiet AKP (Adalet ve Kalkınma Partisi).
    – Vi merker at det er svært intenst. Det er mye lyd og støy over alt, forteller han til Bygdeposten, på telefon fra hotellet han bor på i storbyen med nærmere fem millioner innbyggere.

    Les mer her: Wold i sikkerhet i Tyrkia | DT

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    Washington Post
    Is Turkey reaching a turning point?


    TWO POLITICAL stories have dominated Turkey since the turn of the century: the steady consolidation of power by Islamist leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the emergence of the country’s Kurdish minority from decades of violent insurgency and repression to become a peaceful and accepted political force. On Sunday, those movements will collide in what may be the most important Turkish election since the country’s adoption of democracy 65 years ago.

    The combination of a Kurdish loss and Erdogan triumph would be a double blow to Turkey and its Western alliances. NATO, which insisted that new members from Central Europe meet democratic standards, would find it hard to accommodate a Putin-esque Turkey; so would the European Union, which has been negotiating with Turkey about eventual membership.

    Les mer her: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...b93_story.html

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    Live oppdateringer fra valget.

    http://secim-2015.hurriyet.com.tr/is...sonuclari-34-1

    Kan se ut som Erdogan får en på trynet. HDP ser ut å komme inn. Men er mange stemmer igjen som skal inn.
    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Erdogan tapte majoriteten, men blir ikke lett å danne regjering for noen. Kan ende med nyvalg.
    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Turkey elections: Erdogan says no party can rule alone



    Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said the inconclusive election result means no party can govern alone.

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    Tyrkias president mister flertall:
    Tyrkia-ekspert: – Lover godt for demokratiet

    ** Velgerne stanset grunnlovsendring
    **Kurdere jubler


    Tyrkiske velgere sa nei til president Recep Tayyip Erdogans plan om å endre grunnloven og gi seg selv mer makt.

    Det er klart etter at nesten alle stemmene fra søndagens valg på ny nasjonalforsamling er talt opp. Erdogans parti AKP hadde håpet på to tredels flertall for å endre grunnloven og gi presidenten mer makt.


    Tyrkia-ekspert: – Lover godt for demokratiet - Tyrkia - VG
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    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/akp...&NewsCatID=338

    AKP største parti bland Turkere i Norge, ikke uventet.
    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Spennende hvilken regjering det blir i Tyrkia. Jeg er alt annet enn ekspert, men har over år fulgt med i tyrkisk media (engelskspråklig hvilket nok gir en grad av bias), og uregelmessig drøftet med Tyrkiske venner.

    Er en kompleks bilde.

    Sentrumspartier: AKP og CHP
    Kemalister: CHP og MHP
    Høyrepartier: AKP (?) og MHP
    Venstrepartier: CHP og HDP
    Myke med kurdiske opprører: AKP og MHP
    Anti-Erdogan: CHP, MHP, og HDP

    Går sikkert å gjøre andre inndelinger, og er mange nyanser. MHP er det mest sentralstyrte partiet, og HDP er en blomstereng av valgteknisk sammarbeid.

    Det store spørsmålet er som jeg skjønner det, hvor hviktig er det for de øvrige partiene å gjøre opp med Erdogan og AKPs misbruk av statsapparatet.
    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Turkey's President Erdoğan is ‘loser’ of election: MHP head Bahçeli - POLITICS

    MHP lederen går hardt ut mot Erdogan, og kan se ut som han satser på nyvalg.
    Minsk, det nye Utopia

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    Her kan en ny stat oppstå


    En kurdisk stat kan dukke frem fra Midtøstens kaos. - Muligheten har neppe vært så stor i moderne tid, sier forsker Cecilie Hellestveit.

    I Tyrkia feirer kurderne sitt største politiske gjennombrudd noensinne. Under søndagens valg fikk det prokurdiske partiet HDP 13 prosent av stemmene, og kom seg dermed over sperregrensen på 10 prosent.


    - Dette er en seier for kurderne. Selv om gleden kan bli kortvarig, har de grunn til å feire, sier Tyrkia-forsker Einar Wigen ved Universitet i Oslo.

    Her kan en ny stat oppstå - Aftenposten
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    Vel, da må vel kurderne vinne noen slag mot IS i Irak og starte der. Men selvsagt, svak sentralstat i Irak og Syria sammen med representasjon i det tyrkiske parlamentet åpner muligheter.

    På den annen side åpner den relativt "dynamiske" situasjonen i midt-østen nå mange muligheter i forhold til mange justeringer som grupper ser for seg.
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