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    Re: Iran

    Hopes rise of end to impasse as Iran gets two days to back nuclear deal

    ¤ Enriched uranium would be processed in Russia

    Iran has been given two days to approve a uranium deal that the United Nations says could defuse the long-running crisis over the country's nuclear programme.

    The head of the UN's nuclear watchdog organisation, Mohamed ElBaradei, said the draft agreement to ship out 75% of Iran's enriched uranium for processing abroad "could open the way for a complete normalisation of relations between Iran and the international community".

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...n-nuclear-deal

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    http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/10/22/n.../atom/8681495/

    - Iran og Israel i hemmelige samtaler om atomfritt Midtøsten
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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Lucas
    - Iran og Israel i hemmelige samtaler om atomfritt Midtøsten
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    Et atomfritt midtøsten hadde blitt fredelig, i det minste.
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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Rittmester
    Et atomfritt midtøsten hadde blitt fredelig, i det minste.
    Tja. På dette nivået så tilsier jo all masseteori at andre atomer umiddelbart vil populere dette området av vakum - siden det alltid søkes likevekt i krefter.

    Så selv om en kunne oppnådd det, ville det jo vart svært kort tid.
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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Sofakriger
    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Rittmester
    Et atomfritt midtøsten hadde blitt fredelig, i det minste.
    Tja. På dette nivået så tilsier jo all masseteori at andre atomer umiddelbart vil populere dette området av vakum - siden det alltid søkes likevekt i krefter.

    Så selv om en kunne oppnådd det, ville det jo vart svært kort tid.
    Og hva med områdene som måtte ha forsynt det tidligere Midtøsten med ny masse....?

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    For the pondering mind.....

    What if Israel strikes Iran from the air?
    By Ed Timperlake
    The Washington Times

    ANALYSIS/OPINION:

    With Russia and China slow-rolling any meaningful Iranian sanctions, a fundamental question being left out of the current debate about stopping Iran's quest for a nuclear weapon is this: What could happen after the Israeli Air Force (IAF) takes out Iranian weapon sites?

    America, working through the United Nations, has been trying to initiate sanctions to stop Iran's nuclear weapon programs. Our efforts have proven to be rather ineffectual but probably delayed imports of some major state-of-the art weapons from Russia, China and North Korea.

    But to Israel it must appear the world does not take very seriously two famous words - "never again!"

    When the IAF attacks, Iranian leaders have promised to unleash their missile force. Some intermediate-range ballistic missiles have a high probability of getting through anti-missile defenses and hitting Israeli population centers.

    The 620-mile-range Iranian Shahab-3, a derivative of the North Korean No-dong series, is a powerful and dangerous missile. Like the V-2 barrage on London during World War II, innocent people will suffer but the nation will survive, and once an intermediate-range ballistic missile inventory is depleted, that threat is over and unless replenished, it ends.

    In an attack against hardened Iranian ground targets, the IAF will first have to neutralize Iranian air defenses, including Iran's air force. Iran's current air order of battle includes a mix of Russian, French, Chinese and U.S. design systems, though the actual number of combat-effective aircraft is a guess because of the lack of spare parts and limited insight into the training and tactics of Iranian fighter pilots. However, even older Iranian F-4s, F-14s, MiGs and Sukhois can make a nasty hash of Persian Gulf targets.

    So the big unanswered question is: What do Russia, China and North Korea do to help their client? Does an IAF attack lead them to race in and provide arms to help Iran?

    The great untold story of the Yom Kippur War of 1973 was President Nixon turning on the spigot of U.S. military aid to make sure Israel survived, including the stripping of U.S. squadrons of jets and sending them to Israel, almost overnight. So there is a very real potential that the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans will take a page from history and re-equip Iran.

    With an IAF strike, the United States will have a huge military role independent of any involvement in the initial attack because America will immediately be blamed by Iran and also vilified in the "Arab street."

    The U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor, the world's best fighter, will be needed and can make a huge difference. Hopefully, F-22s can be immediately on station over Iraq, Afghanistan and every other high value Middle East target. Do we have enough?

    Naval air power from aircraft carrier strikes groups will have their hands full protecting sea lines of communication. Mine warfare will be a huge challenge because insurance companies may shut down their tanker clients until mines are swept. Allied navies and the U.S. Navy also will have to neutralize a significant Iranian cruise missile threat, many of which were supplied by China.

    Do the United States and our NATO allies have enough troops in Iraq and Afghanistan to beat back an Iranian-instigated ground attack using whatever fanatical forces they can mobilize? The number of these forces is anyone's guess because Iran can pull the trigger on a lot of fanatics, including mobilizing its terrorist clients, Hezbollah and Hamas.

    So the day after an IAF strike there is the potential need for enough U.S. military forces to engage the fight simultaneously both with conventional and unconventional forces. How long this will go on is a great unknown.

    With the very real possibility of their citizens being killed in Iran at weapons sites, airfields and surface-to-air missile sites, Russian, Chineseand North Korean leaders and their citizens will not be happy with Israel, the United States and NATO. If any or all of those countries decide for whatever reason to overtly or covertly help Iran, events have the potential to really spin out of control.

    But if those three nations do not help Iran, and Iran has its air order of battle destroyed and intermediate missiles depleted, then the world and specifically the Middle East will ultimately be much safer. And regardless of the effectiveness in stopping military weapons flowing into Iran after an IAF strike, America and Europe will still have a very significant, dedicated and smart Iranian-instigated terrorist problem.

    Ed Timperlake is a former Marine Corps fighter pilot who recently served as director of technology assessment for international technology security within the Office of the Secretary of Defense.
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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Lucas
    Hopes rise of end to impasse as Iran gets two days to back nuclear deal

    ¤ Enriched uranium would be processed in Russia

    Iran has been given two days to approve a uranium deal that the United Nations says could defuse the long-running crisis over the country's nuclear programme.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...n-nuclear-deal
    Iran vil svare på anrikningsplan neste uke
    Iran sier landet neste uke vil svare på det FN-støttede forslaget om å sende iranernes uran til anrikning i utlandet.

    http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ur...cle3336782.ece
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    Fagfolk: - Halvannet år før Iran har atomvåpen

    Diplomater ved FN-hovedkvarteret i New York sier, ifølge nyhetsbyrået Reuters, at amerikanske CIA, britiske MI6 og israelske Mossad tror iranerne trenger minimum 18 måneder til å lage et kjernefysisk våpen. Franske og tyske etterretningsfolk skal være enige.

    http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ur...cle3340599.ece
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    Iran nekter å sende anriket uran til utlandet

    http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/11/18/n...ogram/9105804/
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    IAEA ber Iran stanse anrikingsprosjekt

    Det internasjonale atomenergibyrået (IAEA) har vedtatt en resolusjon der byrået kritiserer Irans anriking av uran.

    http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ur...cle3394628.ece
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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Lucas
    IAEA ber Iran stanse anrikingsprosjekt

    Det internasjonale atomenergibyrået (IAEA) har vedtatt en resolusjon der byrået kritiserer Irans anriking av uran.

    http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ur...cle3394628.ece
    Whoo, I bet the Mullahs are scared to death.....
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    Nææ....

    The Times avslører i dag at Iran i flere år har jobbet aktivt for å utvikle kjernefysiske våpen. USA har tidligere slått fast at Iran avbrøt sitt program for utvikling av kjernefysiske våpen i 2003. Men The Times har fått tilgang til et etterretningsnotat hvor det står svart på hvitt at Iran så sent som i 2007 utviklet slike våpen.

    I det hittil ukjente notatet går det fram at Iran ønsker å skjule utvikling av kjernefysiske våpen bak sivil forskning på kjernekraft.

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    Woo hooo!

    Iran test-fires improved missile, state TV says
    Sejil 2 said to have longer range than Shahab, could reach Israel, U.S. bases

    TEHRAN - Iran has successfully test-fired a long-range, improved Sejil 2 missile, state television reported on Wednesday, an announcement likely to add to tension with the West.

    Al Alam, Iran's Arabic-language satellite television, said the Sejil missile had a longer range than the Shahab missile, which Iranian officials in the past have said can reach targets 1,250 miles away.

    That would put Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf within reach.


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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av SWATII
    Al Alam, Iran's Arabic-language satellite television, said the Sejil missile had a longer range than the Shahab missile, which Iranian officials in the past have said can reach targets 1,250 miles away.

    That would put Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf within reach.
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    Israel og USA til å angripe Iran?

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/ ... =allsearch

    Er vel ikke lenge til det sjer å vi har enda en verdenskrig på gang...

    Flyttet til eksisterende tråd.
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    http://bit.ly/9e7N1W

    Russia urges Iran to cooperate on nuclear issue

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said on Friday Iran must cooperate more actively with the U.N. nuclear agency to convince the world its nuclear program is peaceful, and gave fresh signals the Kremlin may back sanctions.
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    (CNN) -- Iran may be working on secretly developing a nuclear warhead for a missile, the head of the United Nations' nuclear watchdog agency said Thursday in a draft report.

    Gee, ya think?

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...ex.html?hpt=T2
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    At Russland beveger seg nærmere å samtykke i sanksjoner mot Iran, er som nevnt svært viktig for å kunne utløse "legitime" sanksjoner fra FNs Sikkerhetsråd. Jf. mitt innlegg midt på side 1 (30 September, 2009, 16:53).
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    Russia says it may consider Iran sanctions

    PARIS/VIENNA (Reuters) - Russia will back new sanctions against Iran as long as they do not create a humanitarian crisis, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Monday after talks with Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62111D20100302

    Russia says still room for diplomacy with Iran

    PARIS (Reuters) - Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Tuesday there was still room for diplomacy rather than sanctions to produce a solution to the dispute with Iran over its nuclear program.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...op+News%29&utm
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    Iran still failing to co-operate, says head of nuclear watchdog

    IAEA chief's stance reinforces calls for sanctions over Tehran's failure to end uranium enrichment

    Iran is still failing to co-operate with the UN's nuclear watchdog, its new head said today, strengthening those voices calling for new sanctions to force Tehran to comply with international demands.

    Yukiya Amano, addressing the first meeting of the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) since he took over as director-general, said he was unable to confirm that Tehran was engaged solely in peaceful nuclear activities "because Iran has not provided the agency with the necessary co-operation".



    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...-amano-nuclear
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    Re: Iran

    Monday, May 24, 2010
    Israel arms may not be enough to stop nukes

    Rowan Scarborough

    As the Obama administration continues to pursue a diplomatic solution for Iran's nuclear weapons program, Israel in recent years has extended the range of its bombers, launched sophisticated spy satellites and developed a more accurate ordnance-dropping system.

    The reasons are clear: Israel is now in a position to send scores of F-16Is and F-15Is on the 1,000-mile penetration of Iranian airspace to try to disable the regime's far-flung network of nuclear research and uranium-enrichment facilities.

    But a U.S. air-war planner in the Persian Gulf War tells The Washington Times he does not think Israel's relatively small air force — compared with the United States huge bomber and cruise-missile fleet — has the firepower to properly hit all the necessary Iranian targets.

    The only real way to stop Iran's atomic bomb, said retired Air Force Col. John Warden, is for the U.S. to shut down Iran's electric generation for the foreseeable future — a strategy not currently on the Pentagon's table.

    That Israel is now ready to make war with Iran, whose radical Islamic rulers have threatened to destroy the Jewish state, was announced earlier this month. Speaking to an air and space institute audience, Deputy Prime Minister Moshe Yaalon bluntly spelled out the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) milestone.

    "This capability can be used for a war on terror in Gaza, for a war in the face of rockets from Lebanon, for war on the conventional Syrian army, and also for war on a peripheral state like Iran," said Mr. Yaalon, who was Israel's top uniformed officer during the buildup.

    Israel's improved air-war prowess centers on three major achievements:

    • Long-range bombers. Israel has purchased premier U.S. fighters especially configured for the buyer's specific threats — read, Iran. The more than 100 F-15I Ra'ams and F-16I Sufas are equipped with special extended-range fuel tanks. Augmenting the supersonic strike jets is Israel's perfection of aerial refueling from B-707 tankers.

    • Armaments. Israel's innovative avionics industry is fitting the jets with a new bomb-guidance system that can find intended targets easier. The defense force now owns scores of BLUs — the military acronym for "bomb, live unit," which is also known as powerful "bunker buster" bombs capable of penetrating underground or hardened facilities.

    • Intelligence. Israel now has in orbit a fleet of super-spy satellites, such as the Ofek-7 launched in 2007, that can regularly capture images of Iran's nuclear and defense sites for the air force's target list. With such constant satellite coverage, it is a safe assumption that war planners have studied Iran's high-value facilities and have a tactic for how to strike each one. Israel has added expertise in analyzing such sites since it produces atomic weapons.

    But Israel likely would face stiff challenges. There are at least two-dozen prime nuclear sites in Iran, some that would require multiple strikes, a feat Israel's limited bomber fleet might not be able to achieve. It is one thing to take out Iraq's nearby nuclear reactor — as Israel's F-16s did in 1981. It is another to launch a much more massive campaign against fortified, dispersed targets more than 1,000 miles away.

    "Given they can fly more airplanes longer distances, fine," said Col. Warden, who worked with a team of air-war specialists to develop the unprecedented precision strikes on Iraq in 1991.

    "It seems to me the real issue is, what are they going to do when they get there?" he said. "When they did that against Iraq, the Iraqis had focused a pretty significant part of their research program in that one place outside of Baghdad. So the targeting was fairly straightforward. You get a handful of airplanes there, and you have a pretty good chance of doing some work."

    "The Iranians have not been ignorant of that particular operation or what was done to Iraq in two wars," he said. "It's just inconceivable they would not have put all that stuff in fairly well-protected places, deep underground, a lot of dispersal. The ability of the Israelis, and us for that matter, to find that stuff and to hit it all with sufficient numbers of things to actually to bring it to a halt strikes me as an extraordinary challenge."

    Israel took out Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981. In a mini-display of what it might do over the skies of Iran, the Israeli air force on Sept. 6, 2007, bombed an under-construction nuclear reactor in the Syrian desert, 60 miles from the Iraq border.

    Israeli news reports at the time said the IDF dispatched eight F-15Is and F-16s. It also sent an aircraft designed to detect nuclear activity and electronic jammers to foil Syrian radars. Subsequent satellite photographs showed the target destroyed. The CIA thinks the Syrians planned to produce plutonium for atomic weapons, all with North Korean assistance.

    The U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff has debated what to do about Iran's atomic ambitions, but no member has endorsed a bombing campaign, according to a former senior official. The official said the dovish U.S. approach is based on two principal reasons: U.S. intelligence agencies do not know the degree to which Iran has buried some of its facilities and thus lack enough knowledge to target them, and the political fallout might resort in a wider war in the Middle East, as the Pentagon is already tied down in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    "We might be able to do it with 20 B-2s with 200 bombs apiece. Four thousand bombs," said Col. Warden. "Maybe that would do it. I don't know. If you could get to them, how deep are they buried and whether you know where the darn things are."

    The only sure way to stop it is draconian. In the Iraq air war, planners took pains not to bring down the entire power-generation system so Baghdad could get electricity back postwar.

    With Iran, if the United States wanted to absolutely ensure the Iranians could not build a nuclear arsenal, planners might opt to shut down all sources of power generation.

    "Iran cannot sustain a nuclear research program if they don't have electricity and oil and a bunch of other things like that," Col. Warden said. "But that is a pretty draconian solution. We have the capability to do that. We could do that in 24 hours if we wanted to. But nobody else in the world is remotely close to being able to do it. And we wouldn't."

    John Pike, a longtime analyst of the Pentagon and intelligence agencies, has a different view on Israel's capability. He says the overt side of Iran's program — facilities at Esfahan, Natanz and Qom, for example — represents the bulk of its atomic work, which includes enriching uranium and creating components for the actual bomb.

    "Iran requires 100 percent of its program in order to build a bomb," said Mr. Pike, founder and director of GlobalSecurity.org. "There do not seem to be any 'spare' or duplicate facilities. Israel does not need to destroy 100 percent of Iran's infrastructure to disable the program. Israel only needs to disable a big chunk of the program, which would render the remainder worthless. The major facilities are isolated, so there is not much danger of significant civilian casualties."

    Mr. Pike said Israel might be considering another target: the nuclear workers and scientists themselves.

    "Most of the people who work at these facilities live in housing that is more or less co-located with the facility," he said. "This makes for a short commute, and facilitates physical and operational security. Bomb the housing, and you destroy the program for a generation."

    Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has all but ruled out military action, but has said that all options are on the table for dealing with the problem.
    washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/24/is ... top-nukes/

    U.S. intelligence analysts have said Iran could build its first bomb by 2012.
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    Iran says ready for nuclear talks if agenda clear

    (Reuters) - Iran is ready to return to nuclear talks with major powers "as soon as tomorrow," but only if the subject of the negotiations is made clear in advance, a senior official said on Monday.

    Iran's terms are that a greater variety of states should join the talks, the parties must say whether they seek friendship or hostility with Iran and they must state their view on the alleged nuclear arsenal of Tehran's arch-enemy, Israel.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69H2W120101018
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    Re: Iran

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A61FS20101108

    Netanyahu presses U.S. for military threat on Iran

    (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Vice President Joe Biden on Sunday that only a credible military threat can deter Iran from building a nuclear weapon, Israeli political sources said
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    Iran inviterer ambassadører til atomanlegg

    Link: http://www.tv2nyhetene.no/utenriks/iran ... 78734.html

    Iran inviterer ambassadører til atomanlegg


    Vesten krever at Iran stanser sitt program for anrikning av uran og anklager Teheran for å ville utvikle atomvåpen i skjul.

    Iran benekter dette og fastholder at landets atomprogram, som overvåkes av IAEA, utelukkende er av sivil karakter.
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    re: Fokus: Iran - Den islamske republikk - nyheter og analyser på Milforum

    vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/midtosten/artikk ... d=10038496

    To iranske krigsskip planlegger å passere gjennom Suezkanalen på vei til Syria onsdag kveld, ifølge Israel, som kaller passeringen en provokasjon.
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    re: Fokus: Iran - Den islamske republikk - nyheter og analyser på Milforum

    Se denne for litt mer fornuftig analyse av de såkalte "krigsskipene" og provokasjonen deres.

    http://www.informationdissemination.net ... kness.html
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    re: Fokus: Iran - Den islamske republikk - nyheter og analyser på Milforum

    Plans by two Iranian warships to pass through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean have been cancelled, says an Egyptian official.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12493614
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    Iran som nå har sendt to krigs skip igjennom Suez kanalen har nok gjort dette pga. en militær strategi, enten tenker de på å beskyte Israel i det de passerer landet i sin planlagte ferd mot Syria.Eller så drar de til Syria fordi landet er uten politisk styring etter at Syria hadde dommedag for 2-3 år siden.Kanskje de planlegger en kjernefysisk sprenging i Syria som et ledd i et øvelses program, ellers så vil de anektere deler av Syria.
    For dere som ikke vet hva en atombombe er, så dreier det seg om en stor gassbeholder, med en innvendig sprengladning. De kan velge selv hvilken egenskaper en slik bombe skal ha ut i fra hvilken gass de bruker og om bomben skal være radioaktiv eller ikke. Derfor kan de velge ut Syria som prøvesprengings område fordi det sikkert er en del bygninger og kjøretøyer som de kan måle bombens spreng egenskaper på.

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    Beskyte Israel med en båt som har mindre slagkraft enn reineklassen til HV? Lykke til med den sier jeg bare. Er vel mer sannsynlig at de vil erte seg litt på amerikanerene. Markere seg utenrikspolitisk, slik at folket blir "samlet" igjen.
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    Det kan også ære en avledings manøver for noe annet som skal skje!

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    Hva i alle dager er det du babler om, Snøugle?

    Prøv i det minste å ha begge benene på planeten Jorden før du poster.

    En av de to skipene er en korvett, som ikke utgjør den minste trussel mot Israel. Skulle den gjøre noe aggressivt vil en israelsk F-16 lett kunne sende den til havets bunn. Det andre skipet er mer interessant - et stort lasteskip. Det innehar ingen offensive kapasiteter, men kan for eksempel ha med seg militært utstyr til Hamas, Hezbollah eller Syria. Det kan bli interessant å se hva Israel gjør med det.

    De som er interessert i å vite litt fakta om atombomber kan f eks lese her:
    http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjernefysiske_v%C3%A5pen
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    Sitat Opprinnelig skrevet av Rittmester
    Hva i alle dager er det du babler om, Snøugle?

    Prøv i det minste å ha begge benene på planeten Jorden før du poster.

    En av de to skipene er en korvett, som ikke utgjør den minste trussel mot Israel. Skulle den gjøre noe aggressivt vil en israelsk F-16 lett kunne sende den til havets bunn. Det andre skipet er mer interessant - et stort lasteskip. Det innehar ingen offensive kapasiteter, men kan for eksempel ha med seg militært utstyr til Hamas, Hezbollah eller Syria. Det kan bli interessant å se hva Israel gjør med det.

    De som er interessert i å vite litt fakta om atombomber kan f eks lese her:
    http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjernefysiske_v%C3%A5pen
    Jeg står for det jeg skriver. De opplysninger som Wikipedia har om atombomber medfører ikke riktighet. Det er heller ikke tilfelle at de Japanske byene Nagasaki og Hiroshima ble bombet av atombombe.
    Jeg vil anbefale alle å følge veldig godt med på disse to båtene til Iran, det er mye rart et stort laste skip kan inneholde.

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    Dear lord.
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    Eh, javel.
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    Sukk enda ett forum troll...

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    Disse to båtene til Iran som via Suez kanalen skulle til Syria, er nå etter min mening en avlednings manøver. Jeg har sjekket flere av de store avisene i Iran som skriver på farsi som er det offisielle språket i Iran, og de er tydligvis veldig godt orientert om disse båtene, så dette er noe alle vet.
    Så det har nok skjedd noe annet i Iran som vi ikke skal vite noe om. Kanskje de har steinet en kjendis feks. Ashtiani?
    Det pågår uansett en henrettelses bølge i landet nå, så det kan være en mulighet.

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    Tror ikke det landet har noe behov for en avledningsmanøver for å ta livet av folk etter landets lover..
    De gir jo stort sett f.. i det andre mener om dem.
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    Snøugle,
    Jeg er faktisk veldig interessert i å høre om ditt syn på verden og dagsaktuelle tema. Seriøst, det er underholdende å lese innleggene dine - originaliteten og nytenkingen bringer et smil om munnen min.
    Men, hadde det vært mulig at du startet en ny tråd i "Ordet er fritt"-seksjonen på forumet med trådtittel "Snøugles Verden Og Løsninger På Verdensroblemer" eller noe slikt, der du hadde kunnet få utfolde deg fritt om hva du mener rører seg på kloden og vi hadde fått samlet alt der? Go eller no go?

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